# Cells require 2 networks, documentation?

**URL:** <https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909>\
**Category:** Pydio Cells\
**Created:** [November 30, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909 "2018-11-30T15:18:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![hbogner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58f4c7/32.png) [@hbogner](https://forum.pydio.com/u/hbogner)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/1 "2018-11-30T15:18:43Z")

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Hi all.  
I was testing cells and installing following the documentation:  
[https://pydio.com/en/docs/cells/v1/requirements](https://pydio.com/en/docs/cells/v1/requirements)  
[https://pydio.com/en/docs/cells/v1/debian-systems](https://pydio.com/en/docs/cells/v1/debian-systems)  
After installing I was unable to start cells. Some kind of networking error. Mentioned documentation newer mentioned 2 networks, so I got stuck. Don’t know exactly why but I added an alias on eth0, named eth0:1 with private ip range and the cells started?  
Any links to documentation about 2 networks requirements would be appreciated?  
Regards

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**Author:** ![hbogner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58f4c7/32.png) [@hbogner](https://forum.pydio.com/u/hbogner)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/2 "2018-11-30T15:20:12Z")

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PS. Some time in next week I’ll redo install and copy the error messages.

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**Author:** ![c12simple](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/forum.pydio.com/c12simple/32/90_2.png) [@c12simple](https://forum.pydio.com/u/c12simple)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/3 "2018-11-30T15:27:21Z")

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Hi,

[https://pydio.com/en/docs/cells/v1/troubleshooting](https://pydio.com/en/docs/cells/v1/troubleshooting)

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**Author:** ![hbogner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58f4c7/32.png) [@hbogner](https://forum.pydio.com/u/hbogner)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/4 "2018-11-30T15:47:24Z")

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Thx for the info @c12simple

That is just stupid from the developers!!!  
I have a machine directly on public network, but cells require additional private address? Why would I need to have private IP network? I’m trying to figure that …  
They should specify that in requirements, not in troubleshooting.

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**Author:** ![c12simple](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/forum.pydio.com/c12simple/32/90_2.png) [@c12simple](https://forum.pydio.com/u/c12simple)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/5 "2018-11-30T15:52:42Z")

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Hi,  
It comes from NATS service which works only in local network because of security reason.

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**Author:** ![hbogner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58f4c7/32.png) [@hbogner](https://forum.pydio.com/u/hbogner)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/6 "2018-11-30T15:56:57Z")

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THX again for clarifying the situation for me.  
They really should specify that in requirements documentation, and not in troubleshooting 🙂

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**Author:** ![ginawu45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@ginawu45](https://forum.pydio.com/u/ginawu45)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/7 "2018-12-01T18:55:28Z")

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This is really strange. If cells needs some kind of local network (for “security reason” or whatever) then cells could use localhost / 127.0.0.1, but we should really not be required to setup a random ip alias, to allow cells to start…

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**Author:** ![hbogner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58f4c7/32.png) [@hbogner](https://forum.pydio.com/u/hbogner)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/8 "2019-02-21T14:58:45Z")

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@ginawu45 @c12simple

I agree, it is strange.  
If it’s for security reasons why not 127.0.0.1? Why force aliases?

Let me rephrase: Why not document it, as it is currently required, in [https://www.pydio.com/en/docs/cells/v1/requirements](https://www.pydio.com/en/docs/cells/v1/requirements) because it is a REQUIREMENT!!!

PS. Thanks to whoever added it 🙂

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**Author:** ![zayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a87d85/32.png) [@zayn](https://forum.pydio.com/u/zayn)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/9 "2019-02-21T15:49:06Z")

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Hi,  
i will add an instruction in the networking section about it.

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**Author:** ![drzraf](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/forum.pydio.com/drzraf/32/1207_2.png) [@drzraf](https://forum.pydio.com/u/drzraf)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-require-2-networks-documentation/1909/10 "2020-02-24T17:11:01Z")

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The mention about an additional private network never made it and it’s still a big installation issue one year later with v2:

> [@\`./cells install --bind\` on VPS, LetsEncrypt and reverse-proxy](https://forum.pydio.com/t/cells-install-bind-on-vps-letsencrypt-and-reverse-proxy/3102):
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> It’s basically a dedicated post to deal with the last comments on: [https://forum.pydio.com/t/url-doesn-t-open-during-cells-installation-process/2954/12?u=drzraf](https://forum.pydio.com/t/url-doesn-t-open-during-cells-installation-process/2954/12) I’m having hard time figuring out the right value of the --bind parameter during ./cells install Configuration: VPS (no virt) Cloudflare (I want to keep IP address privacy behind their proxy) DNS A record set --external will be set to https://my.domain.org (resolvable) one external IP (v4 & v6) address a loopback iface ==\> Pretty s…
