# Are unauthenticated curl uploads possible in cells 4.4.10

**URL:** <https://forum.pydio.com/t/are-unauthenticated-curl-uploads-possible-in-cells-4-4-10/7084>\
**Category:** Pydio Cells\
**Tags:** upload, authentication, api\
**Created:** [March 5, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/are-unauthenticated-curl-uploads-possible-in-cells-4-4-10/7084 "2025-03-05T22:05:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![pydiouser2025](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9bcb4/32.png) [@pydiouser2025](https://forum.pydio.com/u/pydiouser2025)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/are-unauthenticated-curl-uploads-possible-in-cells-4-4-10/7084/1 "2025-03-05T22:05:19Z")

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- OS: RHEL9.5
- Pydio Cells: 4.4.10
- Webserver: Apache/2.4.62 configured as a reverse proxy for Pydio Cells using this documentation: [Pydio | Running Cells behind an Apache reverse proxy](https://pydio.com/en/docs/kb/deployment/running-cells-behind-apache-reverse-proxy)
- Database: mysql Ver 15.1 Distrib 10.5.27-MariaDB, for Linux (x86\_64)
- Desktop Windows 11 v 24H2
- Browser: Firefox 138
- Upload client that works: web browser - firefox
- Upload client that doesn’t work: curl - unauthenticated

Everything works swell except for unauthenticated (anonymous) curl uploads trying:

- curl --upload-file ./helloworld.txt [https://cells.example.com/public/blinddropslugname](https://cells.example.com/public/blinddropslugname)

I can upload the same file using drag and drop in a browser using the same URL.

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**Author:** ![c12simple](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/forum.pydio.com/c12simple/32/90_2.png) [@c12simple](https://forum.pydio.com/u/c12simple)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 9:50am UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/are-unauthenticated-curl-uploads-possible-in-cells-4-4-10/7084/2 "2025-03-11T09:50:35Z")

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Hi,  
This isn’t the way cells work.

To upload files using cli, you may use either curl or cells client tools

- cec [recommended]: [Pydio | Cells Client (cec)](https://pydio.com/en/docs/developer-guide/cells-client-cec)
- curl: You may manually construct s3 signature in bash script. For example: [rest - How do you upload files/folders to Pydio Cells using the Pydio Cells API - Stack Overflow](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54700473/how-do-you-upload-files-folders-to-pydio-cells-using-the-pydio-cells-api)

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**Author:** ![pydiouser2025](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9bcb4/32.png) [@pydiouser2025](https://forum.pydio.com/u/pydiouser2025)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/are-unauthenticated-curl-uploads-possible-in-cells-4-4-10/7084/3 "2025-03-11T10:50:28Z")

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I’m with you, for command line, one of two tools - curl or cec, with cec being recommended. However, with curl, can one not upload to cells anonymously? This is a local data store also, not an s3 back end.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/pydio/original/2X/6/61f19fa52ec15fd4250db51aea351adba0e831fd.png) [@system](https://forum.pydio.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.pydio.com/t/are-unauthenticated-curl-uploads-possible-in-cells-4-4-10/7084/4 "2025-05-10T10:50:31Z")

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